Thank you, DJ, for going into such a long development and taking a lot of your time to prove that Jerusalem was destroyed in - 607 and not in - 587. To me it doesn't really matter, that is why I mentioned both dates in my post, pending a possible third one (who knows with the WTS), which would make you feel regret for having pleaded too much for -607. In any case I'm pretty sure that the occurrence of Armageddon won't hinge on such petty calculation in Jehovah's purpose. Remember, nobody knows, except the father, so why should we be fussy about dates and quibble ?
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Generation Teaching - Everyone is speechless?
by Red Piller inmaybe the effect of this change is bigger than realized?
in 1995, it was discussed (positively) by everybody, during the week we studied the wt.
one elder stepped down and was looked down upon.
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Generation Teaching - Everyone is speechless?
by Red Piller inmaybe the effect of this change is bigger than realized?
in 1995, it was discussed (positively) by everybody, during the week we studied the wt.
one elder stepped down and was looked down upon.
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Leolaia wrote : "Nor did the schematic calendar have only 360 days in a year, for there were also four epagomenal days that lay between the months as markers of the four seasons (the two equinoxes and the two solstices), giving a total of 364 days in a year"
For a while I nurtured the wild hope that Armageddon would occur in 2069, or 2089.
(doing the calculation on the basis of 365 day years, 7 times are 2555 years and ole' 1914 turns into (- 607 + 2555) = 1948, + 1 = 1949. Adding 120 years to make room for father Noah we get to 2069 or (to one's taste), 2089 if Jerusalem was destroyed in - 587.)
Now Leolaia tears that hope to pieces with her 364 day year, so 1914 falls on 1942 and Noah will bring A in 2062 or in 2082.
Who will relieve us from this unbearable uncertainty ?
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A Greek JW serves 15? yrs in prison for his neutrality position.
by smiddy ini`m thinking back to the 1960`s/70s of a watchtower article who described a greek brother who was imprisoned for refusing military conscription service and was sentenced to 5 yrs imprionment by the govt.at the end of his confinement he was again ordered to serve in the military,which he declined and was sentenced to another 5 yrs in prison ,i think this occured one more time.
( at that time their was no way you did alternative service ) of course he was hailed as a faithful brother who wouldn`t compromise his beleifs.of course their were probably many more people who went through an experience like this.is their anybody on the board who can verify,or enlighten us to this experience?
i would like to know what happened to the poor buggers who sacrificed their lives in this way.. smiddy.
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In France, we had, from 1993 to 1995, Edouard BALLADUR as Prime minister and it happens that his nephew was (maybe still is) a JW. I heard that (maybe before he was PM but nevertheless was in a position of authority) he just decided that conscientious objectors who were serving an alternative service within the National forestry department would no longer be managed by the Depatment of Defence but would be under the authority of the Department of agriculture. Therefore, young JWs were allowed by the french WTS branch, overnight, to serve this alternative service under the conscientious objector status, instead of rejecting this status and spending their army time in jail as draft dodgers. Thank you Edouard, Jehovah, for sure, will remember what you did for these small ones. As a side effect, he alleviated overcrowding in french prisons.
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My Dad's passing
by happyexjw inquite a while ago i wrote about my dad who has been living with prostate cancer for 13 years with secondry bone cancer for the last 2 years.
we all thought he was going to leave us back in april when he had a bad chest infection.
i was talking about wanting to be able to say some words at his funeral.
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My sincere condolences, Happyexjw, losing a parent is having a part of one's childhood gone for ever.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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This in-depth and detailed work concerning Rutherford is really impressive and is evidence of the investigative qualities of such great sleuths as Leolaia and other keen researchers but, as a layman I wonder, isn't it according this pathetic charlatan more importance than he deserves ?
Lady Lee, Sorry for not having been able to put it more accurately, I just meant historians, not from the WTS but writing about the WTS .
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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Scott,
Unless I'm mistaken, C.T. Russell died on a train, Rutherford died in Beth Sarim.
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Favorite Quotes
by brotherdan inwe all talk about the negatives about the ugly face of the watchtower that i thought i would start a 'happy' thread.. what are some of your favorite non-wt quotes?.
here's a good one to start:.
you cannot be, i know, nor do i wish to see you, an inactive spectator.
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"Wheresoever she was, there was Eden"
What Adam carved on Eve's tombstone (after Mark Twain)
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Favorite Quotes
by brotherdan inwe all talk about the negatives about the ugly face of the watchtower that i thought i would start a 'happy' thread.. what are some of your favorite non-wt quotes?.
here's a good one to start:.
you cannot be, i know, nor do i wish to see you, an inactive spectator.
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Until age 40 I thought it was a bone
King Henri IV of France
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KS10 Chapter Two Discussion
by yknot incontinuing onward into chapter two (as directed by the boe ltr dated aug 23, 2010) of "shepherding the flock of god" a publication by the non profit organizatin known as the wts of penn & ny as part of their for donation only bible educational work.. for those of interested in chapter one discussion please see: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200524/1/ks10-chapter-one-discussion.
chapter two discusses the various titles within the boe.. subtitles are:.
2) elder's meetings.
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Thank you, Yknot, for these pieces of information, well not really anything new, we wonder why they bothered to issue a new elder manual just for the sake of this brazen thing. But please would you tell us, as you seem to have an evident craving for freedom, how do you manage to stand all these meetings and the constraints of JW life ?
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Twickenham Assembly 1963 newsreel
by dozy ina bit before my time , but hopefully of interest to some.
the food service brings back memories of the 70's & 80's before it was "simplified" by the wtbts.. it would seem that the 60's & early 70's were very much a golden era for the society , before the 1975 debacle.
it is always amazing watching baptisms of adults - i honestly can't remember the last time a reasonably compus mentis adult was baptised at an asembly.. http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=chrp_&m=jz1jo9yc4yjrty&b=tdwz1ywjej1njt4nmqic2a.
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I used to work at the food section at Twickenham in the late 70s, under the terraces, and we would make sandwiches, with some mashed potatoes, peas and sausages, but nothing like these huge cauldrons, as far as I can remember. In France they have stored them, together with giant burners, etc. for quite a long time and sold them away only many years later.